Alright I did my first roof today 2900 square feet took me three and a half hours is that too long not enough? the water pressure from the house water hose was only 40 psi I'm wondering somehow if I go buy a hundred gallon water tank that I can use my pressure washer to give me more pressure on the roof? Looking for some ideas
John Aloisio said
Aug 1, 2015
Please explain he process you did. Yes that could be considered a little long, but it depends on the type of roof, how many dormers, did it have gutters, was it walkable, etc.... Did you rinse the roof?
Also, NEVER use a pressure washer on the roof!! What would you need it for??
Explain more.
Jesse Bracken said
Aug 1, 2015
When I rinse a roof use a Gilmour brass water jet nozzle with just garden hose pressure. Thats only if i rinse and still be careful with that. No pressure washers...
Were you alone or did you have a helper?
-- Edited by Jesse Bracken on Saturday 1st of August 2015 06:58:34 AM
Samuel Alan said
Aug 1, 2015
John yes the roof was very walkable no dormers just me. Yes it had gutters and I did rents the roof all and used a 3% mix ch. Jesse just me
John Aloisio said
Aug 1, 2015
Typically we do not rinse if there are gutters. I am sure that almost doubled your time. Good practice is to always have a ground guy. For safety, plant and house rinsing, general help, and many other things. I know you are just starting, but sell the fact that you are properly manning the jobs. All in all that was not a bad time frame considering what you did.
AC Lockyer said
Aug 1, 2015
Thanks for jumping in and grabbing this one John.
AC
Samuel Alan said
Aug 1, 2015
Well I have some bad news I went by the first house I did yesterday took my wife and my son went by there the first words out of my wife's mouth is what that H did you do that roof I will go by later and take pictures it looks like it's all chalky and runs
John Aloisio said
Aug 1, 2015
Samuel,
Before you tarnish your reputation as a new company, you should take the modules and go to a revolution camp. A couple of bad jobs and worse reviews can halt a new companies hopes of staying in business. There is a lot to search here which I am sure you have, but that will not give you all the insights needed to be successful in the exterior cleaning business. Bottom line..."Knowledge is power". This holds true in pretty much every aspect of business and life, but this business can be tough to learn trial by fire. No need to bang you head against the wall trying to figure out things, when you can just learn from people who have already experienced it.
Take some pics of what the job looks like and post them. I am sure it is just some salt or soap residue, but we need pics to see.
I hope this helps.
AC Lockyer said
Aug 1, 2015
Samuel,
Please invest in your personal improvment and your business. Going out on your own can cause unneeded headaches and harm to your business and your lifestyle. As John said above get to a Revolution Camp and invest in some training. Remember you get exactly what you pay for.
AC
Michael Derose said
Aug 1, 2015
What you probrably have is the calcium residue from the ch. If it's chalky then that's exactly what it is. Over time it will disappear as it rains. I seen a commercial job that was done by my way and the contractor used ch and eventually the residue was gone after a couple of months.
I would suggest you find a SH supplier. You won't have this issue using Sh over CH. Also I strongly suggest having a ground man with you when doing roofs. God forbid something goes wrong there is someone to call for help. There is no job out there that is worth more than your life.
Michael Derose said
Aug 1, 2015
Also please read all the info on this board and other boards as well. Mostly all of your questions and process questions have been answered through out the years. You can also call me anytime if you need to as well.
Samuel Alan said
Aug 1, 2015
I just got back from riding over by the house it's worried me so much I forgot my cell phone for pictures.I just don't know went wrong. I used 90 ounces of Ch And 30 ounces of green wash in 30 gallons of water. Here is two pictures I took before I started the roof. I will try to get around there tomorrow to take some pictures I was just so upset when I went back to I forgot my phone
-- Edited by Samuel Alan on Saturday 1st of August 2015 09:37:21 PM
-- Edited by Samuel Alan on Saturday 1st of August 2015 09:46:27 PM
I do not know why the pictures are upside down but that kind of day I've been having
Michael Derose said
Aug 2, 2015
Based on your mix it is definetly the calcium residue. It will wash away over time.
-- Edited by Michael Derose on Sunday 2nd of August 2015 06:42:19 AM
Samuel Alan said
Aug 2, 2015
How do you stop the calcium residue? a filter system work? All I can find in SH is 10% will that work?
Michael Derose said
Aug 2, 2015
10 % is better than ch. There is a mixology page on softwashsystems.com that will help. Ox acid will remove the calcium from the roof but I would not recommend you try it based on your expertise.
Dan Dykstra said
Aug 2, 2015
Samuel,
Please take the courses offered by AC, so many mistakes on your first roof that could have been avoided if you would have gotten the proper instruction before going out and trying to tackle a roof job. Too many people think all they need to be a roof cleaning professional is a pump, bleach and water. You have found out it is a little more involved than that. Reading all the posts and asking questions is fine but it will still not replace getting the proper training.
Samuel Alan said
Aug 2, 2015
Where can I find the courses and as far as Camp I can't go to them things yet
Michael Derose said
Aug 2, 2015
Sam give me a call 609-929-5812.
AC Lockyer said
Aug 3, 2015
Samuel Alan wrote:
Where can I find the courses and as far as Camp I can't go to them things yet
Also we have placed a replacment camp for the Trotdale, OR in Orlando on August 17 & 18 in a few weeks. You could try to make that.
AC
Bob Riddick said
Aug 3, 2015
Samuel, I remember you saying you're in eastern North Carolina. Pat Clark is in Greenville, SC. and I am in Smith Mountain Lake, Va., near Roanoke.
If you can't get to a Revolution Camp, try and contact one of us to come and spend a day or two for some hands on training. Not to give you a hard time, but it looks like you're doing more things wrong than you are right.
Before you get yourself in more trouble, and possibly tarnish your reputation before you even get started, get some training!
I don't understand why the pictures are upside down
Tim Teed said
Aug 4, 2015
When you use CH on roofs take a lot of photos so that you can show clients the amount of residue left on roof after cleaning when dry and then after a couple of rains. When I was using CH I would tell homeowners there would be residue, they would still call and ask about it. I got tired of answering those calls so I went back to SH for most of my jobs.
Alright I did my first roof today 2900 square feet took me three and a half hours is that too long not enough? the water pressure from the house water hose was only 40 psi I'm wondering somehow if I go buy a hundred gallon water tank that I can use my pressure washer to give me more pressure on the roof? Looking for some ideas
Please explain he process you did. Yes that could be considered a little long, but it depends on the type of roof, how many dormers, did it have gutters, was it walkable, etc.... Did you rinse the roof?
Also, NEVER use a pressure washer on the roof!! What would you need it for??
Explain more.
When I rinse a roof use a Gilmour brass water jet nozzle with just garden hose pressure. Thats only if i rinse and still be careful with that. No pressure washers...
Were you alone or did you have a helper?
-- Edited by Jesse Bracken on Saturday 1st of August 2015 06:58:34 AM
Typically we do not rinse if there are gutters. I am sure that almost doubled your time. Good practice is to always have a ground guy. For safety, plant and house rinsing, general help, and many other things. I know you are just starting, but sell the fact that you are properly manning the jobs. All in all that was not a bad time frame considering what you did.
AC
Samuel,
Before you tarnish your reputation as a new company, you should take the modules and go to a revolution camp. A couple of bad jobs and worse reviews can halt a new companies hopes of staying in business. There is a lot to search here which I am sure you have, but that will not give you all the insights needed to be successful in the exterior cleaning business. Bottom line..."Knowledge is power". This holds true in pretty much every aspect of business and life, but this business can be tough to learn trial by fire. No need to bang you head against the wall trying to figure out things, when you can just learn from people who have already experienced it.
Take some pics of what the job looks like and post them. I am sure it is just some salt or soap residue, but we need pics to see.
I hope this helps.
Please invest in your personal improvment and your business. Going out on your own can cause unneeded headaches and harm to your business and your lifestyle. As John said above get to a Revolution Camp and invest in some training. Remember you get exactly what you pay for.
AC
I would suggest you find a SH supplier. You won't have this issue using Sh over CH. Also I strongly suggest having a ground man with you when doing roofs. God forbid something goes wrong there is someone to call for help. There is no job out there that is worth more than your life.
I just got back from riding over by the house it's worried me so much I forgot my cell phone for pictures.I just don't know went wrong. I used 90 ounces of Ch And 30 ounces of green wash in 30 gallons of water. Here is two pictures I took before I started the roof. I will try to get around there tomorrow to take some pictures I was just so upset when I went back to I forgot my phone
-- Edited by Samuel Alan on Saturday 1st of August 2015 09:37:21 PM
-- Edited by Samuel Alan on Saturday 1st of August 2015 09:46:27 PM
Its because the roof was installed upside down.
Based on your mix it is definetly the calcium residue. It will wash away over time.
-- Edited by Michael Derose on Sunday 2nd of August 2015 06:42:19 AM
Please take the courses offered by AC, so many mistakes on your first roof that could have been avoided if you would have gotten the proper instruction before going out and trying to tackle a roof job. Too many people think all they need to be a roof cleaning professional is a pump, bleach and water. You have found out it is a little more involved than that. Reading all the posts and asking questions is fine but it will still not replace getting the proper training.
http://softwashsystems.com/revolution-camps/
Also we have placed a replacment camp for the Trotdale, OR in Orlando on August 17 & 18 in a few weeks. You could try to make that.
AC
Samuel, I remember you saying you're in eastern North Carolina. Pat Clark is in Greenville, SC. and I am in Smith Mountain Lake, Va., near Roanoke.
If you can't get to a Revolution Camp, try and contact one of us to come and spend a day or two for some hands on training. Not to give you a hard time, but it looks like you're doing more things wrong than you are right.
Before you get yourself in more trouble, and possibly tarnish your reputation before you even get started, get some training!
Not as bad as I thought