I am just begging with Soft Wash Systems and i'm trying to do all my research... I hear you guys talking about Sodium Hyporchlorite. If I were to go to a pool store and buy liquid chlorine that had 12% sodium hypochlorite, is that the same thing that you guys are all mixing with the green wash? I need to know what type of bleach exactly do I mix with the green wash and where is the best place to buy it. Thanks a million guys!!!
Alejandro Riojas said
Mar 25, 2014
Same thing , also some are called liquid pool shock
Ethan Moore said
Mar 25, 2014
Great thanks!! I think that is what it is called. Is 12.5% too strong?
Alejandro Riojas said
Mar 25, 2014
Nope because once you mix gw and water in there it will be diluted to about I think 10%
John Aloisio said
Mar 25, 2014
Depending where you buy it, the strength will be 12.5-15%
Zach Maynard said
Mar 25, 2014
You will be reducing it to a range of 1% to 4% with water depending on the surface you are cleaning.
Matt Jennemann said
Mar 25, 2014
Welcome to community Ethan you've got some prime real estate down in Branson, MO. If you need any help with anything just message me and I'll do what I can for ya. You picked the right sight to get info from, these guy's know there s**t and that's no lie! Also look into using ch instead of sh cause I know the homes down there have a lot of nice expensive plant life growing around them! Be safe...
I find here in Wisconsin 12.5% is cheaper at farm supply stores. Farmers will call it "'barn cleaner" or "milk house cleaner." I buy in bulk now but used it from farm stores when starting, and my gys know where to go when on the road in a pinch.
Mark Fermoyle said
Apr 25, 2014
Hey Ethan!!
Great to see you here on the BB. This Band Of Brothers is great and very eager to see you succeed in soft washing.
Glad I've been able to shed some light on things for you. Write or call anytime!
Mark
Bill Booz said
Apr 26, 2014
Welcome Ethan. Just remember the chlorine that is trapped on the sodium hypochlorite liquid is a free radical gas that wants to bond with oxygen and escape the liquid. You will see lots of people talking about the concerns of fresh or stale bleach. It has a very short shelf life after manufacture as low as 45 days before it's useless for roof cleaning. Try to get it as close to the source or from a manufacturer if possible.
Ron Krill said
Apr 23, 2015
Hi Guys...just getting started in this...working on tile roofs in So Cal. Using 12% SH, 50/50 with a thick car wash soap as a surfactant (not using greenwash yet). Results have been mixed. I will see some areas where the surface looks pretty clean, but most areas where there are still a ton of greenish/blackish spots left behind. Any thoughts/suggestions?
Thanks
Ron
Chad Eneix said
Apr 24, 2015
Sometimes it is cheaper in farm stores. Usually found in the ag chemical isle in 5 gallon or larger containers. Farmers call it "barn cleaner" and use it to clean and disinfect livestock barns. You'll want to find a bulk supplier soon, as you'll crate a lot of plastic waste really fast.
Troy Layman said
Jun 2, 2015
Or you may be able to find a pressure washing type store.
AC Lockyer said
Jun 3, 2015
Univar is in So Cal. Try them.
AC
Troy Layman said
Jun 5, 2015
Two small things to add Ethan and Ron. You'll want to buy the highest strength SH that you can get your hands on. If you can get 12.5, that is good, if you can get higher, all the better. If you are doing the math 100% accurate, if you do a 100 gallon mix using 12.5% SH, you'll have about 75 1/4 gallons of water, 24 gallons of 12.5% SH, and 100 ounces of Green Wash to get a 3% strength SH mix. By comparison if you had weaker SH, say 6% strength, that same 100 gallon mix would be about 49 1/4 gallons of water, 50 gallons of SH and 100 ounces of Green Wash. That's why people go for the highest strength SH can buy. If it takes a smaller amount to make the 100 gallon mix, you can make more batches and have fewer trips back to the shop to refill your bulk storage tank.
And to piggy back off of what Bill said, "the chlorine that is trapped in the sodium hypochlorite liquid is a free radical gas that wants to bond with oxygen and escape the liquid." Thinner coats on a roof or other surface allow the oxygen to reach the SH that is down at the fungus level faster and you use less of your mix which saves you money, decreases run off which decreases plant damage etc., as well as allowing you to do more cleaning between trips back to the shop to refill your bulk storage tank.
Also get signed up into one of AC's Revolution Camps when you can. One of the guys on this forum let me shadow him on a few jobs and taught me a lot (thanks a ton good sir!), and I read everything I could find on this and other forums and watching video's on YouTube (all of AC's stuff), and when I made it into AC's camp, I probably only knew 15%-20% of what he taught the first day, and almost nothing of what he was teaching the second day (spraying techniques and so forth). If you can't make it to one of AC's camps, take the Plants and Property module minimum. There are so many ways to damage a customers property that you don't even realize.
Sorry Ron. There are about 3 tile roofs in Virginia where I am so I can't say much about that.
-- Edited by Troy Layman on Friday 5th of June 2015 10:27:04 PM
I am just begging with Soft Wash Systems and i'm trying to do all my research... I hear you guys talking about Sodium Hyporchlorite. If I were to go to a pool store and buy liquid chlorine that had 12% sodium hypochlorite, is that the same thing that you guys are all mixing with the green wash? I need to know what type of bleach exactly do I mix with the green wash and where is the best place to buy it. Thanks a million guys!!!
Great thanks!! I think that is what it is called. Is 12.5% too strong?
Nope because once you mix gw and water in there it will be diluted to about I think 10%
Depending where you buy it, the strength will be 12.5-15%
AC
Hey Ethan!!
Great to see you here on the BB. This Band Of Brothers is great and very eager to see you succeed in soft washing.
Glad I've been able to shed some light on things for you. Write or call anytime!
Mark
Thanks
Ron
AC
Two small things to add Ethan and Ron. You'll want to buy the highest strength SH that you can get your hands on. If you can get 12.5, that is good, if you can get higher, all the better. If you are doing the math 100% accurate, if you do a 100 gallon mix using 12.5% SH, you'll have about 75 1/4 gallons of water, 24 gallons of 12.5% SH, and 100 ounces of Green Wash to get a 3% strength SH mix. By comparison if you had weaker SH, say 6% strength, that same 100 gallon mix would be about 49 1/4 gallons of water, 50 gallons of SH and 100 ounces of Green Wash. That's why people go for the highest strength SH can buy. If it takes a smaller amount to make the 100 gallon mix, you can make more batches and have fewer trips back to the shop to refill your bulk storage tank.
And to piggy back off of what Bill said, "the chlorine that is trapped in the sodium hypochlorite liquid is a free radical gas that wants to bond with oxygen and escape the liquid." Thinner coats on a roof or other surface allow the oxygen to reach the SH that is down at the fungus level faster and you use less of your mix which saves you money, decreases run off which decreases plant damage etc., as well as allowing you to do more cleaning between trips back to the shop to refill your bulk storage tank.
Also get signed up into one of AC's Revolution Camps when you can. One of the guys on this forum let me shadow him on a few jobs and taught me a lot (thanks a ton good sir!), and I read everything I could find on this and other forums and watching video's on YouTube (all of AC's stuff), and when I made it into AC's camp, I probably only knew 15%-20% of what he taught the first day, and almost nothing of what he was teaching the second day (spraying techniques and so forth). If you can't make it to one of AC's camps, take the Plants and Property module minimum. There are so many ways to damage a customers property that you don't even realize.
Sorry Ron. There are about 3 tile roofs in Virginia where I am so I can't say much about that.
-- Edited by Troy Layman on Friday 5th of June 2015 10:27:04 PM