AC: Can you take me through a house wash using the soft wash system?
Have you already posted that resource somewhere else?
We'll be getting our skid next month and I'm just wondering, because we currently use an xjet and a (4) part chem mix of SH,GW, rinse aid, and wet wax.
In my thought process, I keep getting caught up in rinsing. I am so use to jetting that I'm having a hard time with processing the steps using the new system, especially rinsing.
Windows are also a concern of mine....
Can I still use a wax treatment?
AC Lockyer said
Apr 27, 2012
Ryan,
The steps are easy. I like x-jets and they were a great tool for their time. Dragging a 5 gallon bucket around just doesnt work. Though of ANY down stream device the X-Jet gave more chemical delivery than anything ever created before them. I just love being able to grab a 300' hose and run not having to worry about the bucket.
With a SoftWash Systems TM Cradle Skid or any other one batching system you attack the project like this.
1. Mix up a soft wash cleaning solution of in a 50 gallon tank,
1 gallon of 12% Pool Bleach (sodium hypochlorite) or 50 ounces of Powder Bleach Alternative (calcium hypochlorite) 48.75 gallons of water 32 ounces of Soft Wash Systems Green Wash 2 ounces of SoftWash Systems Bleach Accelerator Agitate with your wand for one batch method.
If you are using a SoftWash Systems spraying system you will,
Transfer one gallon of water in your 50 gallon tank or 50 ounces of Powder Bleach Alternative (calcium hypochlorite) Add balance to full in water Adjust valve setting to allow bleach pump to fold tank contents. tank is now fully prepped
In a 5 gallon bucket place 5 gallons of water Add 32 ounces of SoftWash Systems Green Wash Add 2 ounces of SoftWash Systems Bleach Accelerator Place Green Wash Injector tap into bucket. Set your Green Wash Injection Pump to 60 BPM (bursts per minute)
Make sure all customer property is moved away from the house all garbage cans, BBQ's flags, clothes, seat coushins, anything that could get in the way and or be damaged by bleach.
1. Treat the home top to bottom in a clockwise direction completing one wall at a time allowing for rinsing 5 min after treatment. 2. Use a 20/00 tip to treat the high areas including soffits and higher walls. 3. Use a 20/40 fan tip to treat lower areas using less chemical. 4. Be careful not to put direct rinsing pressure on door jams and or window seals because you may blast bleach into the home ruining furniture and or carpet. 5. After rinsing you can use SoftWash Systems Bleach Wash, bleach neutralizing soap to rinse the windows and even wax the siding. This product has a HEAVY waxing agent and will make surfaces shine. (rinse with cold water)
Did I miss anything? Hope this helps.
AC
Ryan Freidline said
Apr 28, 2012
Thanks AC. I will take some time to wrap my head around that :)
Michael Derose said
Apr 28, 2012
What is the bleach accelerator?
AC Lockyer said
Apr 28, 2012
michael derose wrote:
What is the bleach accelerator?
New product being released in June.
AC
Michael Derose said
Apr 28, 2012
Oh good stuff ac.
AC Lockyer said
Apr 28, 2012
Apex Roof Cleaning Wilkes-Barre PA wrote:
Oops! I'm use to the traditional 30g SH to 70G water method
Nice excited to here about the bleach accelerator? Is there any plant concerns when using the 2% solution? You didn't really mention much about plants, except moving everything that can be damaged? Does your ground guy work along side you watering anything that falls down off the side of the house?
AC Lockyer said
Apr 28, 2012
Apex Roof Cleaning Wilkes-Barre PA wrote:
Nice excited to here about the bleach accelerator? Is there any plant concerns when using the 2% solution? You didn't really mention much about plants, except moving everything that can be damaged? Does your ground guy work along side you watering anything that falls down off the side of the house?
The one gallon SH in 50 gallons of water isnt a 2% solution. Its a .25% solution of available SH or BLEACH. The Bleach Accelerator just activates the available bleach and makes it clean just as good as a bleach solution three times stronger.
This activation of the bleach at a lower concetration helps TREMENDOUSLY with plant damages.
AC
Danny Cronauer said
Apr 28, 2012
Oops! I'm use to the traditional 30g SH to 70G water method
Ryan Freidline said
Jun 27, 2012
ok, lemme see if I got this correct...
Using a cradle skid; In a 50 gallon batch tank, mix 1-2 gallons SH, and 48-49 gallons water. Set the injector at 60bpm. Wash top to bottom.
Now the activator goes in as well to reduce watering the plants. Right?
And instead of rinsing- use the bleach wash. Will that sprayer reach the eave on a 2 story colonial?
What are the actives in the bleach wash? It obviously neutralizes the bleach ( for lack of a better word) but are there other rinse agents in the bleach wash?
AC Lockyer said
Jun 27, 2012
Ryan,
Activator makes bleach work better at a lower strength so I guess that would mean less rinsing on plants but Id still rinse the heck out of them.
Rinse the walls with water first then with bleach wash as a finishing rinse. Let dwell for 5 min then rinse again with clean cool water.
Yes Bleach Wash also has a THICK cheater wax and other rinsing agents.
AC
Schall Bradley said
Jun 30, 2012
More information about the sh activator, is it out and were to buy.
Ryan Freidline said
Jul 1, 2012
VIN: We were talking about the " Green Wash" It IS the activator for SH. We use a lot less SH these days.
Schall Bradley said
Jul 2, 2012
Ok, what I meant was the bleach accelerator that AC referred to in the house washing instructions. This sounds like the best thing since sliced bread. Mixing the solutions at much lower concentraitions would all but eliminate the plant kill problems, Even when cleaning roofs.
AC Lockyer said
Jul 2, 2012
Shall,
I have run into packaging issues on that for a few. You will find if you do a search here we discuss a simular product you can buy online.
AC
Mark Fermoyle said
Oct 31, 2012
AC Lockyer wrote:
1. Mix up a soft wash cleaning solution of in a 50 gallon tank,
1 gallon of 12% Pool Bleach (sodium hypochlorite) or 50 ounces of Powder Bleach Alternative (calcium hypochlorite) 48.75 gallons of water 32 ounces of Soft Wash Systems Green Wash 2 ounces of SoftWash Systems Bleach Accelerator Agitate with your wand for one batch method.
AC,
Am I correct in assuming that the above mix is for a 1% or 2% final solution? If so, is the above mix 1% or 2%??
THANKS!
John Smith said
Oct 31, 2012
1 ounce of CH per gallon gives you 1%, should be anyway
AC Lockyer said
Oct 31, 2012
John Smith wrote:
1 ounce of CH per gallon gives you 1%, should be anyway
Yes depending on how old the CH is.
AC
Mark Fermoyle said
Oct 31, 2012
Thanks John & AC,
I use SH. So, as little as "one gallon" of 12% SH in a 50 gallon mix will yield a 1% batch? (as long as I use the accelerator??)
Danny Cronauer said
Oct 31, 2012
Let Us Spray wrote:
Thanks John & AC,
I use SH. So, as little as "one gallon" of 12% SH in a 50 gallon mix will yield a 1% batch? (as long as I use the accelerator??)
My mind was blown on this one also. When I was first doing the calculations, I thought this had to be a 1-2% solution. It's really .20% I need to get my hands on some of this accelerator. The biggest thing that slows me down on house washes, is plants, and hose movement. AC I feel like your moving your hoses alot if your Cleaning,Rinsing,BleachWashing, and final rinsing.
Thats like 4 full times around the house.
AC Lockyer said
Oct 31, 2012
Danny,
We use appliances that snap onto the garden hose so we are using the same hose each time.
AC
Danny Cronauer said
Oct 31, 2012
AC Lockyer wrote:
Danny,
We use appliances that snap onto the garden hose so we are using the same hose each time.
AC
I purchased the hose end sprayer you recommended. That makes sense for bleach washing windows.
Mark Fermoyle said
Nov 1, 2012
Hi Danny,
YEA!! It's hard to wrap my mind around being able to use so little SH with the accelerator. I picked up some accelerator at Leslie Pool Supply here in Richmond for a great price. Going to try it out soon.
So, when making my new cheat-sheets...
If 1 gallon of SH in a 50 gallon mix = a 1% final solution (with the use of the accelerator) then....
4 gallons of SH in a 50 gallon mix should render a 4% final solution, correct??
Michael Hickey said
Nov 1, 2012
AC
I hadn't noticed this bleach wash accelerator before. If it works so well on house washing, why is it not used for roof cleaning as well?
Michael
Mark Fermoyle said
Nov 1, 2012
Theoretically, it should. However, I'm no chemist. Seems like it would be BEST for both applications though, really. Less plant damage all the way around - whether you're cleaning siding or roofs or what have you.
Just need to know how many ounces of accelerator to add to 50 gallons of:
3% mix
4% mix
AC Lockyer said
Nov 1, 2012
In. 50 gallon tank every 5 gallons of 12% sh brings you 1% of soloution. No matter your strength of soloution add 2 oz of the pixi dust in 50 gal of mix.
AC
Mark Fermoyle said
Nov 1, 2012
Ok, so that recipe above where you suggested to only add 1 gallon 12% SH to the 50 gallon tank must be much, much weaker that 1%, right?
Gregg Austensen said
Nov 1, 2012
AC Lockyer wrote:
In. 50 gallon tank every 5 gallons of 12% sh brings you 1% of soloution. No matter your strength of soloution add 2 oz of the pixi dust in 50 gal of mix.
AC
AC,
I know you said the bleach accelerator was fine with either SH or CH alone. Can it also be used with the augmenting mix (CH & SH)
Thanks!
Gregg
John Smith said
Nov 1, 2012
It is my understanding that the green wash was the excelerator
SoftWash Systems™ Green Wash™ 30 Gallons
All-In-One Bleach Cleaning Solution Additive. Non-Hazardous 1. Helps cleaning solutions bleach better at a lower concentration. 2. Surfactants allow deeper penetration into mildew, algae and bacteria. 3. Bleach stable and will not release harmful gasses. 4. Rain Fresh scent helps cover bleach and dead algae odor. 5. Rinse agent added for more complete soft washing end result
So what am I missing?
Gregg Austensen said
Nov 1, 2012
John,
Your correct on that. GW helps bleach do what it does better. Pixi dust/Fresh and Clear from Leslie's Pool is a non chlorine shock that releases available free chlorine from the pool/mix. It does this immediately and will exhaust your mix within 4 hours.
This will increase bleach power without increasing %. It will also make it "hotter" for those cold days.
I think I got that right. Let me know AC if that's wrong.
Gregg
AC Lockyer said
Nov 1, 2012
Yes you can almost leave what cant be sucked from the tank and dilute it and clean vinyl.
AC
AC Lockyer said
Nov 1, 2012
GAustensen wrote:
AC Lockyer wrote:
In. 50 gallon tank every 5 gallons of 12% sh brings you 1% of soloution. No matter your strength of soloution add 2 oz of the pixi dust in 50 gal of mix.
AC
AC,
I know you said the bleach accelerator was fine with either SH or CH alone. Can it also be used with the augmenting mix (CH & SH)
Thanks!
Gregg
Yes, either, or and both.
AC Lockyer said
Nov 1, 2012
John Smith wrote:
It is my understanding that the green wash was the excelerator
SoftWash Systems™ Green Wash™ 30 Gallons
All-In-One Bleach Cleaning Solution Additive. Non-Hazardous 1. Helps cleaning solutions bleach better at a lower concentration. 2. Surfactants allow deeper penetration into mildew, algae and bacteria. 3. Bleach stable and will not release harmful gasses. 4. Rain Fresh scent helps cover bleach and dead algae odor. 5. Rinse agent added for more complete soft washing end result
So what am I missing?
It is but we reduced that some for those one batching so it wouldnt burn the mix. The monopersulfate catylist really REALLY kicks bleach in the butt.
AC
Michael Hickey said
Nov 1, 2012
AC,
Some questions for you
Does the bleach accelerator help in cold weather? Does it cause any reactions with slate. or stone tiles? Why not use it in the roof cleaning mix? Is it something that can easily be bought over the counter? If I was to buy it in Ireland what would I be looking for?
Thanks as always
Michael
Mark Fermoyle said
Nov 4, 2012
It is but we reduced that some for those one batching so it wouldnt burn the mix. The monopersulfate catylist really REALLY kicks bleach in the butt. AC
I had read earlier and was under that one of the big benefits of Green Wash was that it was "chlorine stable" and wouldn't diminish the batch at all over time. Now I read that it has an ingredient (monopersulfate) that will. With that catylist in the GW recipe, how long can I expect my mix to last before I have to recharge it with more SH????
AC Lockyer said
Nov 4, 2012
No mark we made GW stable back in April 2011. The monopersulfate is a seperate chem.
Mike, there is an entire post on the powder accelorant in this BB. Yes it can be used on a roof.
AC
Mark Fermoyle said
Nov 4, 2012
Thanks AC. I used the accelerator yesterday on a roof job and it worked great. Especially because it was a cooler day. At only 2oz per 50 gallons, allowing me to use less SH, I can't go wrong. Thanks again!!
AC Lockyer said
Nov 4, 2012
Let Us Spray wrote:
Thanks AC. I used the accelerator yesterday on a roof job and it worked great. Especially because it was a cooler day. At only 2oz per 50 gallons, allowing me to use less SH, I can't go wrong. Thanks again!!
Very cool.
Randy Ashley said
Mar 19, 2013
Have a question. In the mixology page it says a 1% solution using CH for 100 gals is 100 ozs. In the lead tech module it says use 128 ozs of CH to get a 1% solution in 100 gals. Which is correct?
Also, I have a vinyl cleaning job to do and want to use the accelerator as the temp will be around 50 degrees when I am scheduled to do it. Is anyone using the accelerator and how much CH would you use in a 50 gal. batch with the accelerator?
Zach Maynard said
Mar 19, 2013
I think 50 degrees is warm enough to use a regular mix without any accelerator.
AC Lockyer said
Mar 19, 2013
Randy,
All we did was back down on the measurment to an even 100 oz to make the math easier. Also in cooler temps the CH isnt going to disolve as readily.
Hope this helps.
AC
Mike Wedge said
May 15, 2013
What is Soft Wash Systems Bleach accelerator? Can I one Batch a 3% mix of SH &CH thru my gen2 twin pump system using more CH than SH? If so ,what would the formula look like?
Mike Wedge said
May 16, 2013
Hey Gang, Do these figures make sense? Add 32ozs of Green Wash& 2ozs SoftWash Systems Bleach Accelerator to each 50gal formula (Always Add water first)
1%mixes: a)1gal of SH or 64ozs of CH
2%mixes: a)2gal of SH or 128ozs of CH
b)1gal of SH + 64ozs of CH
3%mixes: a)3gal of SH or 192ozs of CH
b)2gal of SH + 64ozs of CH
c)1gal of SH + 128ozs of CH
4%mixes: a)4gal of SH or 256ozs of CH
b)3gal of SH +64ozs of CH
c)2gal of SH+128ozs of CH
d)1gal of SH +192ozs of CH
Does anyone know where to get the SoftWash system Bleach Accelerator?
Troy Layman said
Mar 16, 2016
I'm giving an old thread a bump here as I've not seen much on this pixie dust / monopersulfate catalyst in the past couple of years. A realtor sent me a customer for a roof cleaning for a home about to go on the market and there are plants around the house, no gutters, a steeper pitched roof and several valleys to create maximum, unimpeded runoff - good times, right? I'm going to bump up the GW some in my mix, possibly double it and move slowly to do all I can to minimize runoff, cover plants etc., but I was wondering if this roof would be a good candidate for adding the monopersulfate catalyst so I could use a lower concentration of bleach? Would this extra oxidizing power help get the roof looking 'clean' faster for posting photos online with the realtor? If I was going to use a 3 or 3.5% mix without the monopersulfate catalyst, what strength mix would I use if I added the monopersulfate?
From what I was reading, monopersulfate isn't so much a sanitizer like bleach, but it is an excellent oxidizer. It boosts the bleaching power of bleach because bleach on its own is performing multiple roles, both sanitizing and oxidizing, and the majority of the bleach is burned doing the oxidizing leaving a lot less power and more demand for sanitizing/killing bacteria and such. Adding monopersulfate which is an oxidizer greatly decreases the oxidizing demand on the bleach, leaving bleach a lot more of its original power to sanitize, thus, the boosting the bleaching/sanitizing power of the bleach. Am I understanding this correctly? I'm going to rinse the plants profusely, but will adding monopersulfate boosting the sanitizing power be more risk to the plants? I was reading above that it is safer for plants, but if it increases the sanitizing power, doesn't it put you back near the same plant risk, just with less salt in the mix?
AC said above that this pixie dust was going to be for sale from SWS, but I've never seen it so I'm wondering if it ever made it to production as a stand alone product, or if it wasn't put into production as it was already in the Green Wash? So where would I buy this? I'm assuming at a pool supply store, but the last time I called around and asked for monopersulfate, people were stumped. Do pool supply stores call this by another name?
-- Edited by Troy Layman on Wednesday 16th of March 2016 01:37:15 PM
Josh Agadoni said
Mar 16, 2016
Great bump, Troy. I hadn't read this thread before now, just read the entire thing, and I'm curious to know the answers to your questions as well. I have yet to use pixie dust myself and would appreciate a little fresh light shed on the subject.
John Aloisio said
Mar 16, 2016
Leslie's pool supply sells it under the name Fresh and Clear. We only use it in cold weather. I have not used it as an enhancing powder to lessen the amount of bleach. Just rinse rinse rinse....
Josh Agadoni said
Mar 16, 2016
Well then I guess it doesn't apply to me here in San Diego. ;) John, would using pixie dust not be a cost/time savings for you? Or at least not enough to justify using it?
Tim Teed said
Mar 16, 2016
keep in mind the water you are using to make mix is still extremely cold and it takes north side a bit longer to warm up. You can put pails below the valleys and in areas over plant you can also rinse a bit
John Aloisio said
Mar 17, 2016
Josh,
no real savings for me of any kind. It only helps in temps below 45 degrees from what I have experienced. We use anywhere from 4-8 ounces per 50 gallons of mix, and we try to only use it on roof or concrete cleaning. Seems like it adds rinsing time to house washes. It definitely helps in the cold mornings here.
AC: Can you take me through a house wash using the soft wash system?
Have you already posted that resource somewhere else?
We'll be getting our skid next month and I'm just wondering, because we currently use an xjet and a (4) part chem mix of SH,GW, rinse aid, and wet wax.
In my thought process, I keep getting caught up in rinsing. I am so use to jetting that I'm having a hard time with processing the steps using the new system, especially rinsing.
Windows are also a concern of mine....
Can I still use a wax treatment?
Ryan,
The steps are easy. I like x-jets and they were a great tool for their time. Dragging a 5 gallon bucket around just doesnt work. Though of ANY down stream device the X-Jet gave more chemical delivery than anything ever created before them. I just love being able to grab a 300' hose and run not having to worry about the bucket.
With a SoftWash Systems TM Cradle Skid or any other one batching system you attack the project like this.
1. Mix up a soft wash cleaning solution of in a 50 gallon tank,
1 gallon of 12% Pool Bleach (sodium hypochlorite) or 50 ounces of Powder Bleach Alternative (calcium hypochlorite)
48.75 gallons of water
32 ounces of Soft Wash Systems Green Wash
2 ounces of SoftWash Systems Bleach Accelerator
Agitate with your wand for one batch method.
If you are using a SoftWash Systems spraying system you will,
Transfer one gallon of water in your 50 gallon tank or 50 ounces of Powder Bleach Alternative (calcium hypochlorite)
Add balance to full in water
Adjust valve setting to allow bleach pump to fold tank contents.
tank is now fully prepped
In a 5 gallon bucket place 5 gallons of water
Add 32 ounces of SoftWash Systems Green Wash
Add 2 ounces of SoftWash Systems Bleach Accelerator
Place Green Wash Injector tap into bucket.
Set your Green Wash Injection Pump to 60 BPM (bursts per minute)
Make sure all customer property is moved away from the house all garbage cans, BBQ's flags, clothes, seat coushins, anything that could get in the way and or be damaged by bleach.
1. Treat the home top to bottom in a clockwise direction completing one wall at a time allowing for rinsing 5 min after treatment.
2. Use a 20/00 tip to treat the high areas including soffits and higher walls.
3. Use a 20/40 fan tip to treat lower areas using less chemical.
4. Be careful not to put direct rinsing pressure on door jams and or window seals because you may blast bleach into the home ruining furniture and or carpet.
5. After rinsing you can use SoftWash Systems Bleach Wash, bleach neutralizing soap to rinse the windows and even wax the siding. This product has a HEAVY waxing agent and will make surfaces shine. (rinse with cold water)
Did I miss anything? Hope this helps.
AC
New product being released in June. ACThat strong will strip paint off a house! Go here for better mix ratios, http://softwashsystems.com/page_mixology.htm
AC
The one gallon SH in 50 gallons of water isnt a 2% solution. Its a .25% solution of available SH or BLEACH. The Bleach Accelerator just activates the available bleach and makes it clean just as good as a bleach solution three times stronger.
This activation of the bleach at a lower concetration helps TREMENDOUSLY with plant damages.
AC
Using a cradle skid; In a 50 gallon batch tank, mix 1-2 gallons SH, and 48-49 gallons water. Set the injector at 60bpm. Wash top to bottom.
Now the activator goes in as well to reduce watering the plants. Right?
And instead of rinsing- use the bleach wash. Will that sprayer reach the eave on a 2 story colonial?
What are the actives in the bleach wash? It obviously neutralizes the bleach ( for lack of a better word) but are there other rinse agents in the bleach wash?
Activator makes bleach work better at a lower strength so I guess that would mean less rinsing on plants but Id still rinse the heck out of them.
Rinse the walls with water first then with bleach wash as a finishing rinse. Let dwell for 5 min then rinse again with clean cool water.
Yes Bleach Wash also has a THICK cheater wax and other rinsing agents.
AC
I have run into packaging issues on that for a few. You will find if you do a search here we discuss a simular product you can buy online.
AC
AC,
Am I correct in assuming that the above mix is for a 1% or 2% final solution? If so, is the above mix 1% or 2%??
THANKS!
Yes depending on how old the CH is.
AC
I use SH. So, as little as "one gallon" of 12% SH in a 50 gallon mix will yield a 1% batch? (as long as I use the accelerator??)
My mind was blown on this one also. When I was first doing the calculations, I thought this had to be a 1-2% solution. It's really .20% I need to get my hands on some of this accelerator. The biggest thing that slows me down on house washes, is plants, and hose movement. AC I feel like your moving your hoses alot if your Cleaning,Rinsing,BleachWashing, and final rinsing.
Thats like 4 full times around the house.
We use appliances that snap onto the garden hose so we are using the same hose each time.
AC
I purchased the hose end sprayer you recommended. That makes sense for bleach washing windows.
Hi Danny,
YEA!! It's hard to wrap my mind around being able to use so little SH with the accelerator. I picked up some accelerator at Leslie Pool Supply here in Richmond for a great price. Going to try it out soon.
So, when making my new cheat-sheets...
If 1 gallon of SH in a 50 gallon mix = a 1% final solution (with the use of the accelerator) then....
4 gallons of SH in a 50 gallon mix should render a 4% final solution, correct??
I hadn't noticed this bleach wash accelerator before. If it works so well on house washing, why is it not used for roof cleaning as well?
Michael
Theoretically, it should. However, I'm no chemist. Seems like it would be BEST for both applications though, really. Less plant damage all the way around - whether you're cleaning siding or roofs or what have you.
Just need to know how many ounces of accelerator to add to 50 gallons of:
3% mix
4% mix
AC
Ok, so that recipe above where you suggested to only add 1 gallon 12% SH to the 50 gallon tank must be much, much weaker that 1%, right?
AC,
I know you said the bleach accelerator was fine with either SH or CH alone. Can it also be used with the augmenting mix (CH & SH)
Thanks!
Gregg
SoftWash Systems™ Green Wash™ 30 Gallons
All-In-One Bleach Cleaning Solution Additive. Non-Hazardous
1. Helps cleaning solutions bleach better at a lower concentration.
2. Surfactants allow deeper penetration into mildew, algae and bacteria.
3. Bleach stable and will not release harmful gasses.
4. Rain Fresh scent helps cover bleach and dead algae odor.
5. Rinse agent added for more complete soft washing end result
So what am I missing?
Yes, either, or and both.
It is but we reduced that some for those one batching so it wouldnt burn the mix. The monopersulfate catylist really REALLY kicks bleach in the butt. ACSome questions for you
Does the bleach accelerator help in cold weather?
Does it cause any reactions with slate. or stone tiles?
Why not use it in the roof cleaning mix?
Is it something that can easily be bought over the counter?
If I was to buy it in Ireland what would I be looking for?
Thanks as always
Michael
I had read earlier and was under that one of the big benefits of Green Wash was that it was "chlorine stable" and wouldn't diminish the batch at all over time. Now I read that it has an ingredient (monopersulfate) that will. With that catylist in the GW recipe, how long can I expect my mix to last before I have to recharge it with more SH????
Mike, there is an entire post on the powder accelorant in this BB. Yes it can be used on a roof.
AC
Very cool.Also, I have a vinyl cleaning job to do and want to use the accelerator as the temp will be around 50 degrees when I am scheduled to do it. Is anyone using the accelerator and how much CH would you use in a 50 gal. batch with the accelerator?
All we did was back down on the measurment to an even 100 oz to make the math easier. Also in cooler temps the CH isnt going to disolve as readily.
Hope this helps.
AC
What is Soft Wash Systems Bleach accelerator? Can I one Batch a 3% mix of SH &CH thru my gen2 twin pump system using more CH than SH? If so ,what would the formula look like?
Hey Gang, Do these figures make sense? Add 32ozs of Green Wash& 2ozs SoftWash Systems Bleach Accelerator to each 50gal formula (Always Add water first)
1%mixes: a)1gal of SH or 64ozs of CH
2%mixes: a)2gal of SH or 128ozs of CH
b)1gal of SH + 64ozs of CH
3%mixes: a)3gal of SH or 192ozs of CH
b)2gal of SH + 64ozs of CH
c)1gal of SH + 128ozs of CH
4%mixes: a)4gal of SH or 256ozs of CH
b)3gal of SH +64ozs of CH
c)2gal of SH+128ozs of CH
d)1gal of SH +192ozs of CH
Does anyone know where to get the SoftWash system Bleach Accelerator?
I'm giving an old thread a bump here as I've not seen much on this pixie dust / monopersulfate catalyst in the past couple of years. A realtor sent me a customer for a roof cleaning for a home about to go on the market and there are plants around the house, no gutters, a steeper pitched roof and several valleys to create maximum, unimpeded runoff - good times, right? I'm going to bump up the GW some in my mix, possibly double it and move slowly to do all I can to minimize runoff, cover plants etc., but I was wondering if this roof would be a good candidate for adding the monopersulfate catalyst so I could use a lower concentration of bleach? Would this extra oxidizing power help get the roof looking 'clean' faster for posting photos online with the realtor? If I was going to use a 3 or 3.5% mix without the monopersulfate catalyst, what strength mix would I use if I added the monopersulfate?
From what I was reading, monopersulfate isn't so much a sanitizer like bleach, but it is an excellent oxidizer. It boosts the bleaching power of bleach because bleach on its own is performing multiple roles, both sanitizing and oxidizing, and the majority of the bleach is burned doing the oxidizing leaving a lot less power and more demand for sanitizing/killing bacteria and such. Adding monopersulfate which is an oxidizer greatly decreases the oxidizing demand on the bleach, leaving bleach a lot more of its original power to sanitize, thus, the boosting the bleaching/sanitizing power of the bleach. Am I understanding this correctly? I'm going to rinse the plants profusely, but will adding monopersulfate boosting the sanitizing power be more risk to the plants? I was reading above that it is safer for plants, but if it increases the sanitizing power, doesn't it put you back near the same plant risk, just with less salt in the mix?
AC said above that this pixie dust was going to be for sale from SWS, but I've never seen it so I'm wondering if it ever made it to production as a stand alone product, or if it wasn't put into production as it was already in the Green Wash? So where would I buy this? I'm assuming at a pool supply store, but the last time I called around and asked for monopersulfate, people were stumped. Do pool supply stores call this by another name?
-- Edited by Troy Layman on Wednesday 16th of March 2016 01:37:15 PM
Leslie's pool supply sells it under the name Fresh and Clear. We only use it in cold weather. I have not used it as an enhancing powder to lessen the amount of bleach. Just rinse rinse rinse....
keep in mind the water you are using to make mix is still extremely cold and it takes north side a bit longer to warm up. You can put pails below the valleys and in areas over plant you can also rinse a bit
Josh,
no real savings for me of any kind. It only helps in temps below 45 degrees from what I have experienced. We use anywhere from 4-8 ounces per 50 gallons of mix, and we try to only use it on roof or concrete cleaning. Seems like it adds rinsing time to house washes. It definitely helps in the cold mornings here.