Lets discuss the best ways to get hold of bleach for cleaning and soft washing.
A-OK Pressure said
May 22, 2011
I use a local pool supply company for my 12.5%. I told them I would purchase exclusively from them and asked what type of pricing can they give me. They told me I had to purchase a minimum each week which I have no problem doing and I am able to get my 12.5% at a cheaper rate than the local chem supplier sells it for.
AC Lockyer said
May 22, 2011
We had our own tanks. If you have a facility the savings on bleach alone can pay the rent!
Looked into getting my own tank system, could pick it up for about 90 cnt a gallon from the supplier, but must have a commercial location. They will not put the tank in a residential neighborhood, even thought we live on 3 acres.
AC Lockyer said
Jun 6, 2011
See if they will deliver 240 gallon totes and hook up a pool pump to them. That will work.
AC
AE PAINTING said
Jun 6, 2011
Awesome setup AC.
AC Lockyer said
Jun 6, 2011
spray wash wrote:
Looked into getting my own tank system, could pick it up for about 90 cnt a gallon from the supplier, but must have a commercial location. They will not put the tank in a residential neighborhood, even thought we live on 3 acres.
Also we made the move back in the 90's to get a facility based on what we would save on bleach, overtime, etc would pay the rent on the facility. Maybe its time to step it up and out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AC
AE PAINTING said
Jun 6, 2011
I am on my way!!!!
Thomas Peerless said
Jun 7, 2011
Wow, I wish I could have so much love at my disposal.
Currently we are paying .85-.90 p/gallon.....my secong morgtage!
taselton2 said
Jun 17, 2011
AC Lockyer wrote:
We had our own tanks. If you have a facility the savings on bleach alone can pay the rent!
Damn!
AE PAINTING said
Jun 27, 2011
$130.00 for a 55 gl drm in pa.
AC Lockyer said
Jun 27, 2011
AE PAINTING wrote:
$130.00 for a 55 gl drm in pa.
Ouch!
Craig said
Jun 28, 2011
You guys paying .90 per gallon are making me sick! Best deal I can find in Southern Illinois is 2.60 gal at the local pool supply.
Rodney Henke said
Jun 28, 2011
Craig wrote:
You guys paying .90 per gallon are making me sick! Best deal I can find in Southern Illinois is 2.60 gal at the local pool supply.
I know its a drive but Univar has a location in St. Louis.
SMKServices said
Jul 23, 2011
I am in Shreveport, LA for a couple months and need supplies including bleach. Anyone know of a local supplier?
Thanks for tip on chemicals AC. I will be calling them in the morning.
Michael Derose said
Oct 17, 2011
i pay 120 for 55 galllons at a local pool store.
Dan Signor said
Oct 18, 2011
$213.00 for 100 lbs oh ch and $155.00 for sh.
AC Lockyer said
Oct 18, 2011
HP Pro Clean wrote:
$213.00 for 100 lbs oh ch and $155.00 for sh.
That is a fair price for the CH but $155 for 100 lbs of SH is very high. Do you mean 100 gallons of SH?
AC
Dan Signor said
Oct 18, 2011
lol.......$155 for a 55 gallon drum. That was through Univar, I'm not seeing a whole lot of options outside of them. I asked around today and really didn't get alot of information.
AC Lockyer said
Oct 18, 2011
HP Pro Clean wrote:
lol.......$155 for a 55 gallon drum. That was through Univar, I'm not seeing a whole lot of options outside of them. I asked around today and really didn't get alot of information.
Just remember though high at $155 a 55er, your chemical costs are still low compared to other areas of overhead. Payroll will always be your biggest expense.
AC
Dan Signor said
Oct 18, 2011
I agree payroll in every business I have been part of has been the largest expense, but controllable like most expenses as long as you pay attention. I still can be profitable with these costs and I will continue to search for a better cost.
AC Lockyer said
Oct 18, 2011
HP Pro Clean wrote:
I agree payroll in every business I have been part of has been the largest expense, but controllable like most expenses as long as you pay attention. I still can be profitable with these costs and I will continue to search for a better cost.
awesome
Jim Prom said
Feb 5, 2012
We just got a price of $1.05 a gallon and a $45.00 delivery charge and we need to take 400 gallons at a time. They want to inspect our tank before they will sell to us. I would like to use totes for now. The chemical totes should be fine. Any input?
Rodney Henke said
Feb 6, 2012
jipro wrote:
We just got a price of $1.05 a gallon and a $45.00 delivery charge and we need to take 400 gallons at a time. They want to inspect our tank before they will sell to us. I would like to use totes for now. The chemical totes should be fine. Any input?
-- Edited by Roof cleaning memphis on Monday 6th of February 2012 08:50:18 PM
Danny Cronauer said
Feb 8, 2012
I'm looking at $2.60 a gallon, shipped to my house. I have a 300 gallon tote I use as my mother-ship.
Jim Prom said
Feb 8, 2012
Does your tote have chemical seals or is there a concern with the bottom seal leaking at the valve?
Danny Cronauer said
Feb 8, 2012
It has a sealed valve, but also comes with a screw on cap.
Roof Cleaning San Antonio Texas said
Feb 8, 2012
The more you go through univar the more they will help you out on price, I started at 2.63 a gallon now I'm down to 2.41, I think they just want to make sure your gonna be a repeat, the only thing that hurt was the 70.00 drum deposit, but it's only a deposit :)
Mike Laskowski said
Feb 9, 2012
How does everyone move around those heavy 55 gallon drums as well as where do you store them for those of you running things from your home?
Roof Cleaning San Antonio Texas said
Feb 9, 2012
Stack pallets as high as the back of my truck and manhandle that sucker...lol I live on 10 acres but I have a back porch/Shop, thats my main storage area.
AC Lockyer said
Feb 9, 2012
Mike,
The delivery co will drop them for you with a lift gate. You will need a barell dolly. Buy at ww granger. Then your system you bought has the multi tap for moving the bleach to the 100 gallon tank at 7 gpm.
AC
Barry Landis said
Feb 9, 2012
AmerSafe wrote:
How does everyone move around those heavy 55 gallon drums as well as where do you store them for those of you running things from your home?
When I need to move a 55, I use a heavy duty handtruck with ratchet strap attached. The one I use is for moving heavy appliances around. I usually only have to move them once when I get my deliveries, from there I use a transfer pump.
Roof Cleaning San Antonio Texas said
Feb 9, 2012
Same here Barry, I only move it one time till it's empty.
Laurie Benjamin said
Apr 29, 2012
Remember i am from the caribbean..
Are we talking about cholorine for a pool company? if so i have loads of that.
It not, whats the difference? Can i use that instead?
AC Lockyer said
Apr 30, 2012
Yes commonly called liquid pool chlorine. Actually sodium hypochlorite aka bleach.
AC
Laurie Benjamin said
Apr 30, 2012
Oh, ok.....AC can I have your email or skype address? I am new to this and I think that in the Caribbean a huge mArket awaits...I also am interested in the classes but that's a distance to travel just for that..but I don't have a doubt that its worth it..
Laurie Benjamin said
Apr 30, 2012
So let me see if I got this! In your video AC.......is it a mixture or the soft wash and cholorine?
Laurie Benjamin said
Apr 30, 2012
So let me see if I got this! In your video AC.......is it a mixture of the soft wash and cholorine? I also recall u saying not to contaminate
AC Lockyer said
May 1, 2012
All Aspects Ltd wrote:
Oh, ok.....AC can I have your email or skype address? I am new to this and I think that in the Caribbean a huge mArket awaits...I also am interested in the classes but that's a distance to travel just for that..but I don't have a doubt that its worth it..
e-mail is ac@SoftWashSystems.com phone is 407-832-1108 USA. Send me an e-mail first and we can set up a skipe or phone appointment.
AC
Ryan Freidline said
May 5, 2012
There are (6) 1500 gallon containers available here in Culpeper Va from a pool company that upgraded their tanks. $250.00/per. I got one :) *look at the pix AC posted of his facility's tanks on top of those black things. I believe that's 1500 gallons*
Laurie Benjamin said
May 5, 2012
Aye thanks....Got a job tomorrow... All i got is a 3 gallon sprayer for now....My chlorine is 65%.. and guess what i aint got my sufficant yet...What should my mixture be like for concrete ...SOS ...
AC Lockyer said
May 5, 2012
All Aspects Ltd wrote:
Aye thanks....Got a job tomorrow... All i got is a 3 gallon sprayer for now....My chlorine is 65%.. and guess what i aint got my sufficant yet...What should my mixture be like for concrete ...SOS ...
What was your bleach % origionally? Is the 65% your solution ratio???
AC
Laurie Benjamin said
May 7, 2012
welll the job is done....and they were satisfied, but i wasnt. i mean the surfaces were clean as they could get but i thought i would of gotten more help from the bleach...
My pool guy said its 65%....thats all th info he has..he also recommends that i wet the ground first, sprinkle it and the spread with a broom...
i did my own thing...i mixed it in water and sprayed with sprayer in concrete....nothing much happen...i then used our surface cleaner to jet the job done.. ihe have a face book page with the pictures...its www.facebook.com/Allaspectsltd
would love some support
Aye AC what you think about my opperations yesterday??????????..
AC Lockyer said
May 7, 2012
All Aspects Ltd wrote:
welll the job is done....and they were satisfied, but i wasnt. i mean the surfaces were clean as they could get but i thought i would of gotten more help from the bleach...
My pool guy said its 65%....thats all th info he has..he also recommends that i wet the ground first, sprinkle it and the spread with a broom...
i did my own thing...i mixed it in water and sprayed with sprayer in concrete....nothing much happen...i then used our surface cleaner to jet the job done.. ihe have a face book page with the pictures...its www.facebook.com/Allaspectsltd
would love some support
Aye AC what you think about my opperations yesterday??????????..
oh your using calcium hypochlorite. You need to use the 100 ounces per 1% in a 100 gallon tank example. http://softwashsystems.com/page_mixology.htm
also watch this webinar on using soft wash mix ratios. http://www.instantpresenter.com/PIID=E957D685864A
Hope this helps,
AC
Patrick Clark said
May 11, 2012
I'm a little late responding to this, I guess. I get mine pumped into my tank at the shop for $1.85/gallon. We found recently that a great way to find bleach suppliers is to call bleach manufactuers and ask who buys from them. We had a lot of help from Olin Corp in AL. They gave us contact info for 4 different supplier that we could not find with a simple Google or YellowPages search.
Steve Salley said
May 15, 2012
I am going to post this here AC, but if it needs to move feel free to do so.
I was told by Univar in Altoona, PA that their SH is made a bit differently than other SH suppliers. I cannot right now remember the technical aspects other than the process produces hotter cleaner SH.
I pay $3.05 per gallon plus a bunch of fuel surcharges etc so our product is pricey. I have smiled in the meantime while we build our reputation with them and then we will begin to ask with more insistence for better pricing.
Do you know whether that story has substance over other producers?
I look forward to paying less per gallon, but really this is not the deal breaker on the bottom line, since we are able to charge rates that allow for reasonable profits as we carve out our niche in the marketplace.
TylerB1 said
May 17, 2012
I'm paying $3.00 a gallon up in southern NY, next cheapest price I could find was $9.99.... What I would give for
Lets discuss the best ways to get hold of bleach for cleaning and soft washing.
We had our own tanks. If you have a facility the savings on bleach alone can pay the rent!
See if they will deliver 240 gallon totes and hook up a pool pump to them. That will work.
AC
Also we made the move back in the 90's to get a facility based on what we would save on bleach, overtime, etc would pay the rent on the facility. Maybe its time to step it up and out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AC
Wow, I wish I could have so much love at my disposal.
Currently we are paying .85-.90 p/gallon.....my secong morgtage!
Damn!
Ouch!
I know its a drive but Univar has a location in St. Louis.
Try this company for liquid bleach SH and CH,
http://www.poolwaterproducts.com/
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This is Univars state by state listing. They do 55 drums of liquid SH.
http://www.univarusa.com/pagesi/distributionnetwork?OpenForm
AC
That is a fair price for the CH but $155 for 100 lbs of SH is very high. Do you mean 100 gallons of SH?
AC
Just remember though high at $155 a 55er, your chemical costs are still low compared to other areas of overhead. Payroll will always be your biggest expense.
AC
awesome
You want to be sure the totes are in containment tubs or on containment pallets.They're pricey but..........
http://store.interstateproducts.com/products/IBC_Spill_Containment_Pallets_-_Single_Container/IBC-Spill-Unit-EM-1680
-- Edited by Roof cleaning memphis on Monday 6th of February 2012 08:50:18 PM
Does your tote have chemical seals or is there a concern with the bottom seal leaking at the valve?
How does everyone move around those heavy 55 gallon drums as well as where do you store them for those of you running things from your home?
Mike,
The delivery co will drop them for you with a lift gate. You will need a barell dolly. Buy at ww granger. Then your system you bought has the multi tap for moving the bleach to the 100 gallon tank at 7 gpm.
AC
When I need to move a 55, I use a heavy duty handtruck with ratchet strap attached. The one I use is for moving heavy appliances around. I usually only have to move them once when I get my deliveries, from there I use a transfer pump.
Remember i am from the caribbean..
Are we talking about cholorine for a pool company? if so i have loads of that.
It not, whats the difference? Can i use that instead?
AC
e-mail is ac@SoftWashSystems.com phone is 407-832-1108 USA. Send me an e-mail first and we can set up a skipe or phone appointment.
AC
*look at the pix AC posted of his facility's tanks on top of those black things. I believe that's 1500 gallons*
What was your bleach % origionally? Is the 65% your solution ratio???
AC
welll the job is done....and they were satisfied, but i wasnt. i mean the surfaces were clean as they could get but i thought i would of gotten more help from the bleach...
My pool guy said its 65%....thats all th info he has..he also recommends that i wet the ground first, sprinkle it and the spread with a broom...
i did my own thing...i mixed it in water and sprayed with sprayer in concrete....nothing much happen...i then used our surface cleaner to jet the job done.. ihe have a face book page with the pictures...its www.facebook.com/Allaspectsltd
would love some support
Aye AC what you think about my opperations yesterday??????????..
oh your using calcium hypochlorite. You need to use the 100 ounces per 1% in a 100 gallon tank example. http://softwashsystems.com/page_mixology.htm
also watch this webinar on using soft wash mix ratios. http://www.instantpresenter.com/PIID=E957D685864A
Hope this helps,
AC
I was told by Univar in Altoona, PA that their SH is made a bit differently than other SH suppliers. I cannot right now remember the technical aspects other than the process produces hotter cleaner SH.
I pay $3.05 per gallon plus a bunch of fuel surcharges etc so our product is pricey. I have smiled in the meantime while we build our reputation with them and then we will begin to ask with more insistence for better pricing.
Do you know whether that story has substance over other producers?
I look forward to paying less per gallon, but really this is not the deal breaker on the bottom line, since we are able to charge rates that allow for reasonable profits as we carve out our niche in the marketplace.